March 14, 2010

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819 votes

Joined: April 2008

   
Sunday 3:12 AM
Offense the call here. I did do four points here. Did alright with the cut in main hand quading it. Went with the possibility with pone being really short here that they could fill in the crib . I will play on to lead maybe trap a facecard here. dec
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Gougie00
759 votes

Joined: March 2008

   
Sunday 4:14 AM
Bingo!
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damonsmom
681 votes

Joined: May 2008

   
Sunday 4:40 AM
kept poosiblity of run in and hand and it is always nice to give yourself a couple points in the crib
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Coeurdelion
729 votes

Joined: October 2007

   
Sunday 4:54 AM
No thought required - grat cut! ;-)
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Andy (muesli64)
266 votes

Joined: August 2009

   
Sunday 5:07 AM
Could this be the 100% day?
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wb8mkv
252 votes

Joined: October 2009

   
Sunday 5:08 AM
It was going to be either the pair of eigjhts or pair of jacks...better chance of getting a face card cut so I tossed the eights...my lucky day
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King Richard
893 votes

Joined: March 2009

   
Sunday 8:20 AM
I always favor mid-card tosses into my own crib when the number of points kept (Ras's rule) are the same.
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Sunday 9:24 AM
Second best isn't close.
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Ras2829
472 votes

Joined: November 2008

   
Sunday 11:36 AM
Even Ras would make it less than 100% today as discarded J-J to crib. Potential crib value is very close with 8-8 or J-J based on my empirical data with 5.496 (1,501) and 5.275 (952) respectively. Why would I go with lower average to crib? 8-8 scores two points almost twice as often as does J-J cause opponet will discard 9-K, 9-Q, 6-K, 6-Q, 6-10, 6-J etc. before ever reaching for a 7 with a face and will seldom chance two middle cards to my crib. Conversely two X-pointers are often tossed to dealer crib, Q-K being one of the most frequent combos. Also 3-8-8-K offers a better chance for offensive pegging -got to be at least a half point better. So I gave up .221 in crib potential to gain more than a half point in pegging potential. Wil wait for HAL to see what his calculations will show.
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cribbagepogo
576 votes

Joined: October 2007

   
Sunday 11:54 AM
Best you can get with 88 XX in the hand is 6 points. Not for me, go for 8 and throw two.
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MikeA
232 votes

Joined: October 2009

   
Sunday 12:25 PM
This is how they all should turn out.
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HalscribCLX
671 votes

Joined: February 2008

   
Sunday 3:50 PM
Playing a Defense strategy the dynamic expected averages and Win %'s are:

DEFENSE-------Hand---Pegs-Crib-Total---W8 %---W9 %
3-J-J-K_______4.26+(-2.67)+5.52=7.11___52.9___49.5
3-8-8-K_______3.48+(-2.20)+5.19=6.47___48.9___44.7
8-8-J-J_______5.30+(-2.48)+3.57=6.39___50.8___48.1

3-J-J-K is 1/3pt better on crib potential and whilst 3-8-8-K is 1/2pt better on net pegging average the hand potential of 3-J-J-K is 3/4pt better than 3-8-8-K.

8-8-J-J is very close to 3-8-8-K on expected averages however, in this board postion, has greater probability of winning than 3-8-8-K but
3-J-J-K is the best for win %'s. So I will vote with the majority for 8-8 to crib.

After the Q cut I will play Defense to the lead.
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Lumbergh
317 votes

Joined: June 2008

   
Sunday 5:35 PM
Well, looks like Ras already said it all for this discard. Now I'll stop cryng about how the Q was cut and try to get some points back in the pegging.
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Coeurdelion
729 votes

Joined: October 2007

Sunday 6:12 PM
Can't help but think that Ras and yourself have not taken account of the better expected averages for 3-J-J-K compared to 3-8-8-K. I make it 4.00pts vs 3.48pts and this doesn't include the the extra 0.25pt for holding J's. This outweighs the small advantage of the pegging over the crib.
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