November 18, 2017

*** This hand was suggested by james500
88-95*  ?
42%
36%
13%
4%
1%
1%
Total votes: 154
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 3:08 AM
Early on in the game, I would not hesitate to consider Toss (9 K).

But as we're just rounding Fourth Street and trailing, I'll take my chances with Keep (2 3 K K) today and Toss (A 9).

We're most likely going to lose this game: it's mostly a matter of 'by how much.' But if we can be patient, perhaps we still have a remote chance.

The 5 Card Cut probably helps the Dealer more than it helps us, but that's not yet a certainty, so keep fighting!

After we lead our Trey, we wish to score an early (15-2). If it gets PAIRED, we'll simply 'slump backward' in our chair.
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Saturday 3:33 AM
I didn't consider the A-2-3-K as it is closed on one end of the run. Tossing A-9 gives us more cuts for improvement at a lower maximum. The run adds up to "sixteen"but that may be an advantage as dealer.
Rosemarie44 says: Why not lead from our "strength" one of the Kings?
Inushtuk1 says: Hi Rosemarie 44. So you have ventured into the pegging phase of the game. I *like* it! Although the Dealer may be aggressive at this score, like dec says; I doubt s/he would risk pairing our K on Fourth Street. I think our “strength” this morning lies purely on our Magic Five. This the 3 lead is the best offensive/defensive lead imho.
Rosemarie44 says: Thanks you Inushtuk1. Good luck to you.
dec
6356 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 4:31 AM
I feel relatively confident with this discard. In my experiences I believe there is a notable difference between 95 or 96 even 97 thus the CPZ as mentioned by Ras and others. So I choose how to play to win here rather then how not to lose. I was planning on leading from a King anyway instead of the dealer possibly being agressive with any low card we would have led from. Sounds like I am leaning towards a 25 theory rather then 26. Another learning example to extrapolate from. I also have seen K-9 not what you would expect. dec
Inushtuk1
1485 votes

Joined: July 2016

 
 
 
Saturday 4:52 AM
Have always kept it A-2-3-K. And often been disappointed with the results. Let’s try it this way for a change. Lead the 3.

Good luck to all in Berlin tomorrow. I’m on my way now. Those Connecticut Yankees have always been *particularly* tough on me. I must make amends on the morrow.
glmccuskey
4099 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Saturday 6:20 AM
Guess I’m a bit more defensive than most today. I’ll sacrifice one point to throw the 2nd worse discard in cribbage.
Guest says: I'm with you! S:)
polynumeral says: They were my exactly my thoughts as well
BigFoot Bob
624 votes

Joined: April 2016

 
 
 
Saturday 6:44 AM
Went this way for the points
Guest says: Hi BigFoot Bob: What way?????
BigFoot Bob says: Opps, 2-3-K-K
Gougie00
5728 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 7:34 AM
Maximum Defense and K9 usually produces a clunker.
Lead the 3, and take the 15, but play off otherwise.
spin121
299 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Saturday 7:45 AM
This puzzle is very similar to the one we had day before yesterday except we were at hole 90. Based on that I'll bet the farm that I'm supposed to discard Ace 9 here and start with one extra point in my hand before the cut. But not gonna do it.
Andy (muesli64)
2223 votes

Joined: August 2009

 
 
 
Saturday 7:48 AM
Threw A - 9. But I am now wondering if that was the best. 9 - K restricts dealer and gives me a chance of a double run.
Rosemarie44 says: I debated on this choice, too. As you can see that this run is closed on one end.
jmath714
1298 votes

Joined: January 2012

 
 
 
Saturday 9:10 AM
Defense sounds like the play here. What a terrible cut for an all defensive position though.
Coeurdelion
5593 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Saturday 12:13 PM
Seems like a straight choice between 2-3-K-K (A-9) and A-2-3-K (9-K):

2-3-K-K: 6pts - 4½pts (Schell: 4.55) = +1½pts

A-2-3-K: 5pts - 4pts (Schell: 4.03) = +1pt

Potential:

2-3-K-K: Improves with AAA, 222, 333, 4444, 5555 + 14xXs = 31 cuts = 31/46 = 67.4% up to 10/12pts with 222, 333, 5555, KK = 12 cuts.

A-2-3-K: Improves with AAA, 222, 333, 4444, 5555, 999 + 15xXs = 35 cuts = 35/46 = 76.1% up to 12/14pts with AAA, 222, 333 = 9 cuts.

Pegging:

With 3 low cards and a high card I think A-2-3-K will peg better.

Position:

Dealer is almost in position and we're well behind. I'll peg Defensively to keep them short.

Summary:

A-2-3-K starts with ½pt less but it has more cuts for improvement and a better maximum. Also it should peg better. So I'll go for the safer 9-K throw.
HalscribCLX
5316 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 12:54 PM
At 88-95* playing a Safe strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

________________Dlr's
Defense___Hand__Pegs____Crib___Total___W2 %___W3 %
A-2-3-K___7.76+(-2.48)+(-4.11)=1.17____12.8___33.6
2-3-K-K___8.37+(-2.98)+(-4.67)=0.72____10.4___33.8

Defense______L2 %____L3 %
A-2-3-K______40.6____59.2
2-3-K-K______39.2____59.4

A-2-3-K is better for expected averages by 0.45pt ans is also slightly better for Win %s. 2-3-K-K is very slightly lower for Loss %s but even so I'll select 9-K to discard.

After the 5 cut I'll lead the 2 and play Defense:

Lead_____________Dealer's Pegging Pts.
2______________________(-1.87)
3______________________(-1.91)
A______________________(-2.17)
K______________________(-2.65)
Guest says: Overall 1 2 3 K has a higher losing percentage even though 1 2 3 K gives up 1/2 pt less in opponent's crib. And 1 2 3 K gives up 1/2 pt less in the pegging. spin
Ras2829
5152 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 3:40 PM
With opponent already at hole 95 with the deal, need to minimize crib score and pegs, Holding three in a row with the King does the best job of that. Seven points after the starter puts me at the beginning of 4th street CPZ 95-99. Playing defense, will break the lower sequence and lead the deuce. If playing an offense strategy, would have led the King. Although the A-9 is a pretty low scoring discard, allow me to chart the profiles of the 9-K and the A-9. The 9-K to opponent crib averages 3.940 (2,640), 2/91 scores two or less 38.143%, tallies 3-7 49.358, scores 8-11 11.628%, and reaches 12 or more .871% (that's less than 1%). That A-9 average is 4.34 (1,604) 14/91, scores 2 or less 30.174%, tallies 3-7 53.305%, scores 8-11 14.713%, and reaches 12 or more 1.808%. So the A-9 produces about 30% fewer 0-2 cribs, about 8% more in the 3-7 range, tallies 30% more in the 8-11 category, and scores more than twice as many cribs of 12 or more points. RAS likes those numbers favoring the 9-K discard. And james500 has been on center stage for a few days now with some very fine puzzles.
Inushtuk1 says: Here here. And *What* was I thinking keeping both K’s. I better do better tomorrow.