September 16, 2018

*** This hand was suggested by james500
99*-107  ?
42%
36%
16%
2%
2%
Total votes: 147
james500
3922 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Sunday 3:25 AM
I wonder if I should keep the 4-5-6 run/fifteen together with 4-5-6-J or 4-5-6-7, or feed the crib with A-4?

Nice cut whatever you choose.
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Sunday 3:43 AM
It's another horse race today between Toss A-4 and Toss A-7, I believe. I am not too fond of Toss A-J, however.

Retaining the natural 4-5-6 RUN keeps our power more consolidated in our Hand, where as Toss A-4 would send some of the burden into our Crib.

By choosing Toss A-7, I think we are more assured of obtaining the Total Points needed, if not to reach the Finish Line, to at least get close enough to coast out as Next Non Dealer.

After the wonderful 5 Card Cut, we simply need to peg Two Holes in order to win during This Deal, which is just One Hole more than our guaranteed One-Point Minimum.

Thus, our only concern is that Pone's combined Pegging plus First Hand Show is Fourteen Points or greater today. Therefore, we need to Play Off (total defense, duck and dodge mode) and our prospects look very good.

Do NOT frivolously grab an unnecessary (15-2) after a Ten Card (or "X" Card) Lead here! And avoid pegging any PEARS as they may be "moldy" and lead to Loss of Game!

An astute Pone could easily "steal" this victory from us if his or her cards closely "match" ours today: our one and only task is not to give it all away!
JQT says: We should probably most fear a 5 Card Lead today. Considering that the Cut is also a 5 Card, this would probably indicate that Pone not only has some strength, but also possibly needs to peg a few holes. Taking the straightforward (15-2) with our Jack would then seem obvious, but after calculating the remote odds of Pone holding the "case" 5 Card, I might strongly consider PAIRING that 5 Card! After all, if Pone does indeed hold a PAIR of 5 Cards, with a third 5 Card "on deck," Pone just requires *any* Ten Card to have enough to win with First Hand Show. Thus, while we know that we shouldn't PAIR thoughtlessly today, PAIRING a 5 Card Lead looks to be the most accurate response. Try not to ever give away a "won" game; always make your opponent EARN it!
glmccuskey says: With that five card cut aren’t we guaranteed two points in the crib? No need to peg.
Inushtuk1 says: Hi JQT. So what you’re saying is, if Pone leads a 5, you’re basically just trying to cut the spread. Have I got that right?
Guest says: In the rather unlikely "case" in which Pone does indeed: (1) have the "case" 5 Card, and thus Pone holds TWO 5 Cards, and; (2) also has at least ONE Ten Card (or two other cards that either add up to Ten, or that form a Triple RUN with those 5 Cards, then YES, we would simply be looking to reduce the number of Spread Points by which we lose, since in all "cases" Pone would already have Fourteen or Fifteen Points, respectively. However ... Now let's examine the much more likely "case" in which Pone has an arrangement such as (5 9 T J), or is holding (5 8 J J), where lucky for us, the Jack Suit(s) does NOT match that of the Cut Card, therefore with perhaps Thirteen or Twelve Points, respectively. Now, Pone will desperately need to peg One or Two Points! Leading a 5 Card could be an appropriate tactic here! And if we "hit it" for (15-2) with our own Jack, Pone now can PAIR us and therefore has enough to win with First Hand Show, and win in a game in which as the Dealer we might very well still have been able to win. Other examples abound in which we could only prevail by responding to a 5 Card Lead with our own 5 Card! Only a rare hand occurrence might "bite" us, say if Pone held (5 5 7 8), and now of course we would regret not grabbing the (15-2) upon a 5 Card Lead. But if Pone does hold TWO 5 Cards here, I think the bias is extremely high that it comes with either at least one Ten Card or it forms a Double RUN (which of course becomes a Triple RUN after the 5 Card Cut). I hope my logic here is correct: I've been "tapping out" my choices and postings for several months now on an old cell phone, as it's taken me nearly a year to slowly migrate from my old, failed-and-broken Windows XP machine, and without the ability to see my ideas clearly (or to edit them) before posting them, I could be missing something ... so by all means, please examine my logic (or lack thereof, which if so I shall readily blame on my advancing age, or failing health, or medication, or maybe the weather : - ).
JQT says: I'm a "Guest" in my own box! And yes, glmccuskey, Good observation, I think you are correct: we have enough "gas in the tank" to reach at least Hole 122 without any *additional* pegging beyond the guaranteed One Point ... unless of course Pone can somehow first peg Fourteen Holes! Yikes!
glmccuskey
4100 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Sunday 5:16 AM
I’m out if I get to count my hands so peg it as defensively as you can.
Guest says: I like how you always say what you'll do once play starts. See you Tuesday! S:)
horus93
1281 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Sunday 6:09 AM
Better for defensive pegging than 4-5-6-7. Total defense to the cut. I'd play the 6 on a "ten" lead.
Jazzselke
2586 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Sunday 6:33 AM
456X is always a great hand to hold, and can be used for either offensive or defensive pegging.
Guest says: I went your way...see you Tuesday! S:)
Gougie00
5729 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Sunday 6:49 AM
I'll hold the flush ...
I'm not crazy about A-7, but I like A-K worse.
I need all the points I can get. My 1st problem is not being so aggressive the pone goes out on a 12 hand. The 5 cut is not optimal in this case.
Guest says: No need to worry about being aggressive. Your out without pegging a point.
Gougie00 says: I forgot about the flush, like dah, and that gives me 20 + 2. So, we try to beat the bear back with a broomstick, and play off.
Inushtuk1
1486 votes

Joined: July 2016

 
 
 
Sunday 7:17 AM
Yes keep this nice flush. Not sure how to respond to a 5 lead to tell the truth. Play OFF on every thing else.
Ras2829 says: HI Inushtuk1: Seldom see a five lead unless opponent holding three different X-pointers and looking to peg two points. So I would make the count 11 with a high percentage chance that opponent can't do anything about it. Conversely if opponent has fours and sixes, treys and fours they are out without gaining a single peg. Would prefer to have any lead other than a five though. More later! Perhaps much later.
dec
6357 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Sunday 9:37 AM
Away on a long weekend finally got on... Which four to keep .. the long with the biggest main hand potential the run with a Jack. sidenote. up here in Pittsburg,NH me and my wife set up the Back Lake championship and it went 2-0 best of three . V. dec
Gougie00 says: Aint no there, there.
cribbagepogo
3251 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Sunday 9:56 AM
See ya'll Tues. Good lunch and good luck, after me.
Coeurdelion
5594 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Sunday 2:03 PM
Three possibilities? 4-5-6-7 (A-J), 4-5-6-J (A-7) or 5-6-7-J (A-4):

4-5-6-7: 10pts + 3¾pts (Schell: 3.65) = 13¾pts

4-5-6-J: 11pts + 3¾pts (Schell: 3.85) = 14¾pts

5-6-7-J: 9pts + 5¼pts (Schell: 5.43) = 14¼pts

Potential:

4-5-6-7: Improves with 2222, 3333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 8888, 9999 + 15xXs = 43 cuts = 43/46 = 93.5% up to 13/16/18/20pts with 3333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 8888 = 20 cuts. Plus 1pt extra for the flush with 7 clubs = 7/46 = 0.15pt.

4-5-6-J: Improves with AAA, 3333, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 9999 + 15xXs = 39 cuts = 39/46 = 84.8% up to 15/18/20pts with 444, 555, 666, JJJ = 12 cuts. Plus 2pts extra for his nob and the flush with 7 clubs = 2x7/46 = 0.30pt.

5-6-7-J: Improves with 2222, 3333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 8888, 9999 + 15xXs = 43 cuts = 43/46 = 93.5% up to 12/13/14/16pts with 444, 555, 666, 777, 8888, JJJ = 19 cuts. Plus 2pts extra for his nob and the flush with 7 clubs = 2x7/46 = 0.30pt.

Pegging:

All these hands should peg well. Playing offense perhaps 4-5-6-7 the best.

Position:

We're 3pts past 4th street positional hole so I'll play Defense.

Summary:

4-5-6-J starts with the most by ½pt over 5-6-7-J. It has fewer cuts for improvement than 5-6-7-J and fewer for a very good hand but it does have a considerably higher maximum. Both have the 0.30pt for a club cut so I'll throw the A-7 for the better high scores.
HalscribCLX
5317 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Sunday 2:56 PM
At 99*-107 playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_________________Pone's
Defense___Hand___Pegs___Crib_Total____W1 %____W2 %
4-5-6-J___14.04+(-2.24)+3.60=15.40____33.9____71.6
5-6-7-J___12.17+(-2.17)+5.33=15.33____31.1____69.5
4-5-6-7___13.76+(-1.96)+3.32=15.12____32.3____68.6

Defense_______L1 %____L2 %
4-5-6-J_______19.4____18.9
5-6-7-J_______22.0____20.8
4-5-6-7_______21.0____21.8

4-5-6-J is only 0.07pt better than 5-6-7-J but it is also appreciably best for Win %s and Loss %s which take account of the board position. So I'll select A-7 to discard.

After the 5 cut I'll play Defense to the lead.
joekayak
1873 votes

Joined: May 2016

 
 
 
Sunday 2:58 PM
$-A to crib gives me 9 in and, 2 in crib, and 1 for dealers peg to bring me to 111 minimum. cuts that improve-J-4-5-6 also improve this hand or the crib. Feels to me like J-5-6-7 can play off better than J-4-5-6. I'm probably out this deal or next if I can keep pone from going out first.
dgergens
938 votes

Joined: January 2018

 
 
 
Sunday 10:55 PM
I know the A,4 in the crib has valuable upside potential (though I don't have stat memorized), but keeping 4,5,6 in the hand is worth more to me that an A,4 in the bush. My reasoning.