November 17, 2018

*** This hand was suggested by acis1 on ecribbage.com
0-0*  ?
47%
11%
11%
8%
5%
5%
3%
2%
1%
1%
1%
0%
0%
Total votes: 135
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 3:16 AM
Kept the Deuce in case a 5 Card was Cut! Also considered Toss 3-6. Tricky Discard! Lead the 8c.
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Saturday 3:19 AM
Believe we have a choice between 3-6, 3-9, or 2-9. Decided on the safer toss of 3-6 and keeping the 8-8-9 together.
james500
3922 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Saturday 3:21 AM
Slim pickings today, but at least there are plenty of helpful cuts, (2,4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10), with this choice. A bit anxious about the value of the crib though, 3-5-6-?-? could be a pleasant surprise for Dealer. 8d lead.
dec
6357 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 4:30 AM
3-6 or 3-9 virtual dead heat. Since non dealer with these particular pairings I will do the one with possible cuts that would do a better overall average. Insignifant as it is there is an eleven count that might aid in the defensive pegging. Power in numbers lead one of the eights. dec
Gougie00
5729 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 5:17 AM
Purely defensive tactic. Lead the 8.
glmccuskey
4100 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Saturday 6:01 AM
I want to keep the 2-3 in my hand. Leading the three.
cribbagepogo
3251 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Saturday 9:18 AM
Going for a good start, or not. If I were going to break it up I would not throw 3-9, a 3 cut and 4 points for dealer. Throw 2 and dealer gets a 4 cut there is 2 points but I gain more.
Goatman
2502 votes

Joined: March 2017

 
 
 
Saturday 12:24 PM
2-6 or 3-6 for me. going with the 2-6 as I really don't like the 3-6 to pones crib.
Coeurdelion
5594 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Saturday 4:16 PM
The safest throw of these is 2-9 so I'll compare 6-8-8-9 (2-3) with 3-6-8-8 (2-9) and the open-ended run 2-8-8-9 (3-6):

6-8-8-9: 4pts - 7½pts (Schell: 7.33) = -3½pts

3-6-8-8: 2pts - 4¾pts (Schell: 4.70) = -2¾pts

3-8-8-9: 2pts - 5pts (Schell: 4.87) = -3pts

Potential:

6-8-8-9: Improves with AAAA, 666, 7777, 88, 999, 10101010 = 20 cuts = 20/46 = 43.5% up to 8/10/16pts with all cuts.

3-6-8-8: Improves with AAAA, 333, 4444, 666, 7777, 88, 999 = 23 cuts = 23/46 = 50.0% up to 6/12pts with AAAA, 4444, 666, 7777, 88 = 17 cuts.

2-8-8-9: Improves with 222, 4444, 5555, 666, 7777, 88, 999, 10101010 = 27 cuts = 27/46 = 58.7% up to 6/8/12pts with 5555, 7777, 88, 10101010 = 14 cuts

Pegging:

I think all the hands will peg reasonably well.

Position:

As First Pone we'll be playing Offense and trying to reach First Positional hole of 18pts.

Summary:

6-8-8-9 starts with ½/¾pt more but 2-8-8-9 has slightly more cuts for improvement. 6-8-8-9 also has 20 cuts for 8-16pts. 2-8-8-9 has the most cuts for improvement and 14 cuts for 6-12pts which is a tremendous improvement from 2pts. By the way Schell puts 3-6 at 4.87pts and 2-6 at 4.97 so I've used 3-6 to compare. I think I'll be more cautious and throw the 3-6.
HalscribCLX
5317 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 5:36 PM
At 0-0* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_______________Our
Offense___Hand_Pegs__Crib___Total___W9 %____W10 %
2-8-8-9___4.48+1.30+(-4.28)=1.50____18.2____19.1
2-6-8-8___4.30+1.26+(-4.30)=1.26____17.8____18.2
3-8-8-9___4.43+1.26+(-4.45)=1.24____18.5____18.8
3-6-8-8___4.26+1.26+(-4.36)=1.16____18.1____18.7
3-6-8-9___4.13+1.39+(-4.44)=1.08____18.2____18.5
2-6-8-9___4.22+1.24+(-4.46)=1.00____18.1____18.2
2-3-8-8___4.96+1.70+(-5.80)=0.86____20.0____17.7
2-3-6-9___4.96+1.83+(-6.00)=0.79____21.0____17.9
6-8-8-9___6.61+1.43+(-7.55)=0.49____23.5____17.4

Offense______L9 %____L10 %
2-8-8-9______36.0____53.2
2-6-8-8______36.6____54.1
3-8-8-9______36.8____53.8
3-6-8-8______36.3____53.7
3-6-8-9______37.2____54.4
2-6-8-9______37.5____54.8
2-3-8-8______41.2____56.7
2-3-6-9______42.1____56.8
6-8-8-9______45.4____58.2

2-8-8-9 is best for expected averages by 0.24pt and although 6-8-8-9 is apreciably best for Win %s 2-8-8-9 is lowest for Loss %s. As its the start of the game I'll put most emphasis on the expected averages and select 3-6 to discard.

After the 5 cut I'll lead an 8 and play Offense:

Lead___________Our Pegging Pts.
8___________________1.16
2___________________0.99
9___________________0.88
Ras2829
5153 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Sunday 12:10 AM
That2-3 to opponent crib averages 7.524. Can't make such a toss to hold four points. So it is the 3-6, lead an 8 and take pegs as offered.