July 29, 2020

*** This hand was suggested by James500
88-94*  ?
52%
24%
15%
4%
1%
0%
0%
0%
Total votes: 217
mrob2199
1435 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:07 AM
The flush is very tempting today but from these position points the combination of keeping the 6 point hand while theoretically balikihg the dealers crib with 2-9 must rule the day-lead the 2 and play the 7 ic dealer makes the count 12-we might get a quick 2 for the 31-we should be around the 95 mark after the hand so let’s try to keep dealer as far away from the 110 spot as we can
Eolus619 says: Rob...I read your pegging scenario...Which seems to me taking what was offered....question...at this board position...are you going with an aggressive, defensive or opportunistic pegging strategy.
mrob2199 says: Bruce at this point I’ll be very happy to peg 2 or 3 uncontested points-I don’t want to get in any protracted pegging exchanges when my opponent is in decent position
Eolus619 says: Understand ...thx
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:18 AM
The Flush was my first choice. Like the starter card. Peg defensively easily with the Flush and we are at around 97 mark. Let's hope dealer doesn't toss a 3 into his crib.
james500
3923 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:57 AM
Don't want to risk 2-2 or 6-7 at this point. I'll try the (hopefully) safe 2-9.

2 lead.
dec
6358 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 4:24 AM
More about what they can count here. So hopefully no help in crib and lead the safe two lead here. dec
zeke76
1396 votes

Joined: August 2018

 
 
 
Wednesday 5:11 AM
Holding a third 2 makes me feel a bit better about the 22 toss, but those 3s ....
SallyAnn3
908 votes

Joined: March 2020

Wednesday 5:48 AM
Seduced by the flush!
mfetchCT425 says: Hi Sally, Enjoyed our game last night and a nice win by you. Hope you ended up with a nice card. I’ll be looking for some revenge the next time we play, lol.
mrob2199 says: Mike ,you lost to Sally? I’m searching for a Pawtucket bus ticket for you! Lol
SallyAnn3 says: Thanks, Mike. Same here. The end game tips I learn here worked! Revenge is good--but only in cribbage :)
SallyAnn3 says: Ok Rob, Pawtucket??? fill me in! BTW, Mike told me "I don't trust you" lol. I took that as a compliment...
mfetchCT425
1399 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Wednesday 5:55 AM
I think we need to try and hold their crib down from this position so will toss 2-9. We still have a decent hand with pegging potential including a 3-card magic 11. Like the 2d lead here which may utilize the magic 11 for 31-2 later on in the pegging as Rob mentions above and also keeps a flush fake in order.
Eolus619
1342 votes

Joined: June 2020

 
 
 
Wednesday 6:15 AM
First...I am trying to make this a three hand game..this and 2 more with me having first count on 3rd hand . 2-9 and 2-2 were my considered choices. If I discard 2-9 it seems that I was reducing ..on average...my hand by 2 and dealers crib by 2 ..roughly. So discarded the 2-2 to keep more points in my hand. I voted and then read what Rob posted . When I considered the 2-9 I wasn’t eloquent and experienced enough in my own mind to sway me to his decision. But I clearly see his logic.
glmccuskey
4101 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Wednesday 6:17 AM
Need to play defense but also try to get to 95+. I think that’s the best way to accomplish that. I’ll lead the two of diamonds.
wasa
3018 votes

Joined: November 2014

 
 
 
Wednesday 6:29 AM
First order of business is to play our position. Opponent needs 27 points (if I can count). If 26 is average, I need to make sure that they get less than average. Hence, no 2-2 or 6-7 going into their crib!
Mark6
702 votes

Joined: June 2020

 
 
 
Wednesday 7:24 AM
Balk the Crib
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 7:32 AM
Toss (2 9) is safest, but it 'costs' us Two Points, and we need those extra points today!

Meanwhile, Toss (6 7) is about as costly as Toss (2 2), especially if we take Negative Delta into account since we have three Deuces.

Thus, I'll Toss (2 2) and retain the FLUSH, which should be better during the pegging. Lead the 6 Card.
JQT says: We cannot win a high percentage of games from such a relative position, and during those instances in which Toss (2 2) do lead to our loss, it seems apparent to me that throwing even ONE Deuce would probably also cause us to lose. The fact is, Dealer only needs to get a LITTLE help in ANY form, while we almost certainly need to optimize our own Hand today in order to boost our odds appreciably. Thus, we must sometimes incur RISK, in order to face a dire situation.
JRCeagle78
1054 votes

Joined: June 2016

 
 
 
Wednesday 7:42 AM
This hand should put us around the 98-99 hole with a cautious play.

If I decided to toss the 9-2, the lead card would be the 2. With this hand I'll lead the 6 and hopefully use the 2 for pegging later.
joekayak
1873 votes

Joined: May 2016

 
 
 
Wednesday 7:45 AM
DEF first. Must do best we can to keep this dealer below 110. At other board positions, the flush might well be the way to go but even the best cuts are not going to put us out before current dealer if they reach 110+
thelawnet
262 votes

Joined: January 2020

 
 
 
Wednesday 9:40 AM
It's our next deal. So helping our foe here by tossing 22 isn't a good idea I think. Better slow things down with 29. After the cut we have trash.

Will hope for a better hand next time. But we want to lay it down! Won't do that if dealer gets too close to 121 here
Coeurdelion
5594 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Wednesday 2:35 PM
Perhaps three possible keeps but I do not think 2-2-2-9 (6-7) is likely - 2-2-2-9 (6-7), 2D-2-6-7 (2-9) and 2D-6-7-9 (2-2):

2-2-2-9: 8pts - 6pts (Schell: 6.42) = +2pts

2D-2-6-7: 6pts - 4¾pts (Schell: 4.70) = +1¼pts

2D-6-7-9: 8pts - 6½pts (Schell: 6.38) = +1½pts

Potential:

2-2-2-9: Improves with 2, 4444, 666, 999 = 11 cuts = 11/46 = 23.9% up to 12/14/20pts with 2, 4444, 999 = 8 cuts.

2D-2-6-7: Improves with 2, 4444, 5555, 666, 777, 8888, 999 = 22 cuts = 22/46 = 47.8% up to 11/12pts with 2, 5555, 666, 777, 888 = 14 cuts.

2D-6-7-9: Improves with 2, 4444, 5555, 666, 777, 8888, 999 = 22 cuts = 22/46 = 47.8% up to 11/12/14pts with 2, 5555, 666, 777, 8888, 999 = 18 cuts.

Position:

Opponent is 2pts short of 3rd street positional hole and we only 6pts so I'll play Defense.

Pegging:

I think playing Defense 2-2-2-9 may peg best.

Summary:

2-2-2-9 has the best starting value by ½pt and the highest maximum at 20pts but it has few cuts for improvement and 8 for 12-20pts. The flush has many more cuts for improvement and 18 for 11-14pts. I think 2D-6-7-9 will also peg reasonably playiong Defense. So I'll throw the black 2s.
HalscribCLX
5317 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:20 PM
At 88-94* playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_______________Dlr
Defense__Hand__Pegs___Crib____Total___W2 %____W3 %
2D-2-6-7__8.09+(-2.37)+(-4.32)=1.40____12.0____37.0
2D-6-7-9_10.15+(-2.78)+(-5.98)=1.39____19.7____38.0
2-2-2-9___9.17+(-2.76)+(-5.72)=0.69____11.6____33.6

Defense_____L2 %____L3 %
2D-2-6-7_____34.9____55.2
2D-6-7-9_____44.6____53.2
2-2-2-9______41.6____58.8

2D-2-6-7 is best for expected averages but only by 0.01pt more than the flush. The flush is very much best for Win %s and although 2D-2-6-7 is lower for Loss %s I'll decide based on the Win %s. So I'll select 2S-2C to discard.

After the KD cut I'll lead the 2 and play Optimally (cautiously offense):

Lead_______Net Pegging Pts.
2______________(-0.92)
6______________(-0.95)
7______________(-1.19)
9______________(-1.29)
Ras2829
5154 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:34 PM
Since choosing an optimal pegging strategy needing the deal at 4th Street CPZ (95-99), will play the flush for 8 points. If choosing a defense pegging strategy would have discarded unsuited 2-9. Lead the deuce and split the 6-7 second card played if that looks feasible. After seeing the starter card, knowing that I have 9 points, will take peg points that seem reasonably safe.
Ras2829 says: BTW would have retained 2-2-6-7 if at hole 90 or better. From 88, it's the flush for 8 points. A hole or two is often critical to the choice of strategy. The shorter the board, the more important those few holes become.