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Total votes: 217 |
mrob2199 1435 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Wednesday 3:07 AM
The flush is very tempting today but from these position points the combination of keeping the 6 point hand while theoretically balikihg the dealers crib with 2-9 must rule the day-lead the 2 and play the 7 ic dealer makes the count 12-we might get a quick 2 for the 31-we should be around the 95 mark after the hand so let’s try to keep dealer as far away from the 110 spot as we can Eolus619 says: Rob...I read your pegging scenario...Which seems to me taking what was offered....question...at this board position...are you going with an aggressive, defensive or opportunistic pegging strategy. mrob2199 says: Bruce at this point I’ll be very happy to peg 2 or 3 uncontested points-I don’t want to get in any protracted pegging exchanges when my opponent is in decent position Eolus619 says: Understand ...thx |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Wednesday 3:18 AM
The Flush was my first choice. Like the starter card. Peg defensively easily with the Flush and we are at around 97 mark. Let's hope dealer doesn't toss a 3 into his crib. |
james500 3923 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Wednesday 3:57 AM
Don't want to risk 2-2 or 6-7 at this point. I'll try the (hopefully) safe 2-9.
2 lead. |
dec 6358 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Wednesday 4:24 AM
More about what they can count here. So hopefully no help in crib and lead the safe two lead here. dec
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zeke76 1396 votes Joined: August 2018 |
    Wednesday 5:11 AM
Holding a third 2 makes me feel a bit better about the 22 toss, but those 3s .... |
SallyAnn3 908 votes Joined: March 2020 |
Wednesday 5:48 AM
Seduced by the flush! mfetchCT425 says: Hi Sally, Enjoyed our game last night and a nice win by you. Hope you ended up with a nice card. I’ll be looking for some revenge the next time we play, lol. mrob2199 says: Mike ,you lost to Sally? I’m searching for a Pawtucket bus ticket for you! Lol SallyAnn3 says: Thanks, Mike. Same here. The end game tips I learn here worked! Revenge is good--but only in cribbage :)
SallyAnn3 says: Ok Rob, Pawtucket??? fill me in! BTW, Mike told me "I don't trust you" lol. I took that as a compliment...
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mfetchCT425 1399 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Wednesday 5:55 AM
I think we need to try and hold their crib down from this position so will toss 2-9. We still have a decent hand with pegging potential including a 3-card magic 11. Like the 2d lead here which may utilize the magic 11 for 31-2 later on in the pegging as Rob mentions above and also keeps a flush fake in order. |
Eolus619 1342 votes Joined: June 2020 |
    Wednesday 6:15 AM
First...I am trying to make this a three hand game..this and 2 more with me having first count on 3rd hand . 2-9 and 2-2 were my considered choices. If I discard 2-9 it seems that I was reducing ..on average...my hand by 2 and dealers crib by 2 ..roughly. So discarded the 2-2 to keep more points in my hand. I voted and then read what Rob posted . When I considered the 2-9 I wasn’t eloquent and experienced enough in my own mind to sway me to his decision. But I clearly see his logic. |
glmccuskey 4101 votes Joined: April 2011 |
    Wednesday 6:17 AM
Need to play defense but also try to get to 95+. I think that’s the best way to accomplish that. I’ll lead the two of diamonds. |
wasa 3018 votes Joined: November 2014 |
    Wednesday 6:29 AM
First order of business is to play our position. Opponent needs 27 points (if I can count). If 26 is average, I need to make sure that they get less than average. Hence, no 2-2 or 6-7 going into their crib! |
Mark6 702 votes Joined: June 2020 |
    Wednesday 7:24 AM
Balk the Crib |
JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Wednesday 7:32 AM
Toss (2 9) is safest, but it 'costs' us Two Points, and we need those extra points today!
Meanwhile, Toss (6 7) is about as costly as Toss (2 2), especially if we take Negative Delta into account since we have three Deuces. Thus, I'll Toss (2 2) and retain the FLUSH, which should be better during the pegging. Lead the 6 Card. JQT says: We cannot win a high percentage of games from such a relative position, and during those instances in which Toss (2 2) do lead to our loss, it seems apparent to me that throwing even ONE Deuce would probably also cause us to lose. The fact is, Dealer only needs to get a LITTLE help in ANY form, while we almost certainly need to optimize our own Hand today in order to boost our odds appreciably. Thus, we must sometimes incur RISK, in order to face a dire situation. |
JRCeagle78 1054 votes Joined: June 2016 |
    Wednesday 7:42 AM
This hand should put us around the 98-99 hole with a cautious play.
If I decided to toss the 9-2, the lead card would be the 2. With this hand I'll lead the 6 and hopefully use the 2 for pegging later. |
joekayak 1873 votes Joined: May 2016 |
    Wednesday 7:45 AM
DEF first. Must do best we can to keep this dealer below 110. At other board positions, the flush might well be the way to go but even the best cuts are not going to put us out before current dealer if they reach 110+ |
thelawnet 262 votes Joined: January 2020 |
    Wednesday 9:40 AM
It's our next deal. So helping our foe here by tossing 22 isn't a good idea I think. Better slow things down with 29. After the cut we have trash.
Will hope for a better hand next time. But we want to lay it down! Won't do that if dealer gets too close to 121 here |
Coeurdelion 5594 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Wednesday 2:35 PM
Perhaps three possible keeps but I do not think 2-2-2-9 (6-7) is likely - 2-2-2-9 (6-7), 2D-2-6-7 (2-9) and 2D-6-7-9 (2-2):
2-2-2-9: 8pts - 6pts (Schell: 6.42) = +2pts 2D-2-6-7: 6pts - 4¾pts (Schell: 4.70) = +1¼pts 2D-6-7-9: 8pts - 6½pts (Schell: 6.38) = +1½pts Potential: 2-2-2-9: Improves with 2, 4444, 666, 999 = 11 cuts = 11/46 = 23.9% up to 12/14/20pts with 2, 4444, 999 = 8 cuts. 2D-2-6-7: Improves with 2, 4444, 5555, 666, 777, 8888, 999 = 22 cuts = 22/46 = 47.8% up to 11/12pts with 2, 5555, 666, 777, 888 = 14 cuts. 2D-6-7-9: Improves with 2, 4444, 5555, 666, 777, 8888, 999 = 22 cuts = 22/46 = 47.8% up to 11/12/14pts with 2, 5555, 666, 777, 8888, 999 = 18 cuts. Position: Opponent is 2pts short of 3rd street positional hole and we only 6pts so I'll play Defense. Pegging: I think playing Defense 2-2-2-9 may peg best. Summary: 2-2-2-9 has the best starting value by ½pt and the highest maximum at 20pts but it has few cuts for improvement and 8 for 12-20pts. The flush has many more cuts for improvement and 18 for 11-14pts. I think 2D-6-7-9 will also peg reasonably playiong Defense. So I'll throw the black 2s. |
HalscribCLX 5317 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Wednesday 3:20 PM
At 88-94* playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
_______________Dlr Defense__Hand__Pegs___Crib____Total___W2 %____W3 % 2D-2-6-7__8.09+(-2.37)+(-4.32)=1.40____12.0____37.0 2D-6-7-9_10.15+(-2.78)+(-5.98)=1.39____19.7____38.0 2-2-2-9___9.17+(-2.76)+(-5.72)=0.69____11.6____33.6 Defense_____L2 %____L3 % 2D-2-6-7_____34.9____55.2 2D-6-7-9_____44.6____53.2 2-2-2-9______41.6____58.8 2D-2-6-7 is best for expected averages but only by 0.01pt more than the flush. The flush is very much best for Win %s and although 2D-2-6-7 is lower for Loss %s I'll decide based on the Win %s. So I'll select 2S-2C to discard. After the KD cut I'll lead the 2 and play Optimally (cautiously offense): Lead_______Net Pegging Pts. 2______________(-0.92) 6______________(-0.95) 7______________(-1.19) 9______________(-1.29) |
Ras2829 5154 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Wednesday 3:34 PM
Since choosing an optimal pegging strategy needing the deal at 4th Street CPZ (95-99), will play the flush for 8 points. If choosing a defense pegging strategy would have discarded unsuited 2-9. Lead the deuce and split the 6-7 second card played if that looks feasible. After seeing the starter card, knowing that I have 9 points, will take peg points that seem reasonably safe. Ras2829 says: BTW would have retained 2-2-6-7 if at hole 90 or better. From 88, it's the flush for 8 points. A hole or two is often critical to the choice of strategy. The shorter the board, the more important those few holes become. |