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Total votes: 165 |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Thursday 3:15 AM
Maybe you can see a way out in this position. We are short 22 points here as pone and with a bunch of cards that start as 6 or 4 points. Appears we have the choice of tossing 2-8 or 6-8 to opponent.
Expected averages favor tossing 2-8 over 6-8. We can't speed up so maybe we can slow him down? |
dec 6351 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Thursday 4:20 AM
A double problem . We need to keep them short but we eed to get to 105 or more for the next hand. So he pegging might hold them back but with no cut hope they end up 110 or in the high 110s and get ready for the next hand hopefully. dec |
james500 3916 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Thursday 4:45 AM
6 lead. |
glmccuskey 4094 votes Joined: April 2011 |
    Thursday 6:04 AM
Defense. I’ll lead a three. |
JRCeagle78 1054 votes Joined: June 2016 |
    Thursday 6:44 AM
We will probably be playing defense for this hand and the next. 2-8 is the best discard in this situation. Lead the three and hold out hope that he did not feed his crib |
JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Thursday 7:00 AM
Probably need a Trey Cut to stand any chance of getting close enough to peg out Next Deal. |
Jazzselke 2583 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Thursday 7:13 AM
Not too much of a choice. Some games are like this, take your medicine.... Jazzselke says: ...but never give up. wasa says: Hey, 9 submittals ago, congrats on your 1000 votes! Jazzselke says: Thx |
wasa 3012 votes Joined: November 2014 |
    Thursday 7:42 AM
Suspect I'm taking the loss, but opponent may get the classic "2 point hand, 2 point crib", which would make me smile. |
Coeurdelion 5589 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Thursday 8:15 AM
I think its between 3-3-6-9 with 6pts but poor potential and the safer discard against 2-3-3-9 for 4pts with good potential and a more risky discard:
3-3-6-9: 6pts - 5pts (Schell: 4.94) = +1pts 2-3-3-9: 4pts - 5½pts (Schell: 5.86) = -1½pts Potential: 3-3-6-9: Improves with 33, 666, 999 = 8 cuts = 8/46 = 17.4% up to 12/16pts with all cuts. 2-3-3-9: Improves with AAAA, 222, 33, 4444, 666, 7777, 999 + 16xXs = 39 cuts = 39/46 = 84.8% up to 8/12/14pts with AAAA, 33, 4444, 999 + 16xXs = 29 cuts. Pegging: 2-3-3-9 should peg much better. Position: Dealer is past positional hole. I'll play Offense to perhaps put myself into a position to peg out next deal as Dealer. Summary; 2-3-3-9 has a starting value 2½pts less tha 3-3-6-9 but has much better potential and should also peg better. However with the certain 6pts and a chance of 12/16pts and a safer discard in this position 3-3-6-9 has a lot of appeal. In a different position I'd play 2-3-3-9 but here I think it more prudent to go with the more conservative 2-8 and not risk the 6-8. Ras2829 says: Hi Coeurdelion: Excellent final paragraph! Going to town to think and might even get to the grocery store. More later. |
Gougie00 5723 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Thursday 8:36 AM
I dont like anything on this menu! I'll toss 2-8 and try to deaden the crib. Had I known a 7 would win, I would have broken it differently. Lead a 3. |
Inushtuk1 1480 votes Joined: July 2016 |
    Thursday 8:44 AM
On offense I’ll play it this way. And lead my 9! See Ras’s post, and reply to my question, from July 22, 2017 for the reasons why. This puzzle was submitted the following day as a result of his answer. Not sure that Halscrib will agree with the risky discard though at this particular score. Even less so with the 9 lead. |
HalscribCLX 5312 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Thursday 1:16 PM
At 99-99* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
_______________Our Offense___Hand_Pegs__Crib___Total___W1 %___W2 % 2-3-3-9___8.00+1.83+(-5.40)=4.43____0.5____21.3 3-3-6-9___7.35+1.30+(-4.47)=4.18____0.2____22.8 Offense______L1 %____L2 % 2-3-3-9______13.7____66.9 3-3-6-9_______8.1____62.8 2-3-3-9 is better for expected averages by 0.25pt but 3-3-6-9 is slightly better for Win %s and very much lower for Loss %s because of the much less risky 2-8 compared to suited 6-8. Both Win %s and Loss %s take account of the board position and at this critical stage I'll choose based on these. Therefore I'll select 2-8 to discard. After the 7 cut I'll lead a 3 and play Defense: Lead__________Dealer's Pegging Pts. 3___________________(-2.07) 9___________________(-2.61) 6___________________(-2.71) |
Ras2829 5146 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Thursday 4:57 PM
With opponent at hole 99 with the deal (85% chance to win), crib size might be the major factor to consider. Really prefer holding 2-3-3-9 as it poses the greater potential hand score and pegs. Thinking offense when picking up the cards and switching to defense once seeing the starter card. Will lead one of those treys with a blush. |