October 16, 2018

*** This hand was suggested by Gougie00
92-84*  ?
37%
35%
12%
6%
5%
3%
Total votes: 163
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:08 AM
Now we'll become Next Dealer from at least Hole 100. Lead the Trey.
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:50 AM
It pays to Flush today: higher expected averages (hand minus crib toss), possibility of 13 points maximum, and safer discard to opponent.
dec
6356 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:55 AM
Flush. lookin for that two of diamonds cut or " a non cut for the opponent hand and/or crib. Looks like no large crib points and we have our par and our check lead. dec
joekayak
1873 votes

Joined: May 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:10 AM
Many more cuts for improvement over keeping 4 card run. Don't like the A-3 throw to crib. I have one of the Jacks to "block" the Q-10 throw.
joekayak says: And this should peg better/more defensively than 9-10-J-Q. Like above. Lead the three.
bbaer1
3690 votes

Joined: February 2011

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:36 AM
I'll hold one point less to avoid throwing gappers.
james500
3921 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:08 AM
I agree with Joe's reasoning, with a Jack in my hand I'm comfortable discarding 10-Q. 3 lead also.
Gougie00
5728 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:57 AM
The flush or the 4 card run? 10-Q is usually a good toss. I hedged with the flush. Lead the 3.
Ras2829 says: Good puzzle Gougie00 as it reflects the kinds of problems/decisions often encountered in real games.
Gougie00 says: It is a good puzzle because at different positions in the game, you might opt to go for the 10 pointer with the 4 card run instead. What gives me a bit of pause is what if the dealer tosses himself 5-J?
Gougie00 says: Using a football analogy, we are holding a small lead late in the game, and we dont risk the interception. So we adopt a conservative philosophy.
horus93
1281 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:01 AM
Initial instinct was to keep the run for a decent shot at 10 points but under examination the flush is much better.

If we desperately needed 10 points it'd make sense to keep the run, but at this position we'd mostly want to go for a higher hand average. The run leaves us with only 4 points on 22/46, nearly half the cuts.

The flush is less likely to give us a great hand but much more likely to give us a good one.

Neither the run nor the flush is probably going to pick up many points in pegging. I'd lead the 9 and maybe make something happen further up the first play series with my ace and/or three.
Inushtuk1
1485 votes

Joined: July 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:35 AM
I agree with the flushers. This is a good defensive throw. But with that 6 not looking like it helped the crib much, I agree with horus93. Play offense here. After all, we are plus 6, and Dealer is -12. I think we can afford to attempt to be dealing beyond 100 if possible. So is it the 9 lead as horus93 proposes, or the J. I don’t think the 9 does anything that the J can’t do. Lead the J. On the logical 5 for (15-2), drop the 9 for (24). Hope to trap a small card.
Inushtuk1 says: I see parallels between this hand, and the 2-3-5-X that Ras was talking about the other day. Lead the X-pointer on offense to keep the A-3 intact. But perhaps the 9 is better, as we know the whereabouts of one 6. But a card laid is a card played as they say.
horus93 says: Yeah I really wasn't sure between 9 and J. I went with 9 because I figured dealer was a little less likely to hold a 9 or 6 than a 5. Interested to hear others' take on it, I bet it's pretty much a tossup though.
Inushtuk1 says: Yes it must be pretty much a tossup.
Jazzselke
2585 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:43 AM
Agree with 8 of the first 9 commenters. It is interesting how often a majority of the commenters will disagree with the the total voters' top choice.
Jazzselke says: ...guess I stuttered.
cribbagepogo
3251 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:42 AM
Wow, guess I may be off base. I don't want to throw the 1/3 and like the run.
JRCeagle78
1054 votes

Joined: June 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 9:09 AM
I want to keep one low rank card either for pegging, or an escape. Q-3 has too much potential in the opponents crib. With a 6 cut I'll lead the 9. I know this strategy is not the best, but it should be okay until my deal.
Ras2829
5151 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 9:12 AM
Playing a defense strategy with these cards, it pays to flush. Since choosing defense will lead the trey. If choosing offense, would have led the 9. The 10-Q 4.638 32/91 is one of six discard choices of the 91 which scores 0-2 more than 40% of the time (40.972 to be exact). The A-3 4.959 45/91 and scores 0-2 27.444. The A-3 scores 12 or more points 8.567%. That's almost twice as often as does the 10-Q.
wasa
3016 votes

Joined: November 2014

 
 
 
Tuesday 9:39 AM
As many above, I really like the flush. Holding one of the Jacks makes the T-Q not too bad in my eyes.
Coeurdelion
5592 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:30 PM
I think the options are 9-10-J-Q (A-3), A-3-9-J (10-Q) or 3-9-10-J (A-Q):

9-10-J-Q: 4pts - 5pts (Schell: 5.07) = -1pt

A-3-9-J: 4pts - 4½pts (Schell: 4.61) = -½pt

3-9-10-J: 3pts - 4½pts (Schell: 4.33) = -1½pt

Potential:

9-10-J-Q: Improves with 5555, 6666, 8888, 999 + 13xXs = 28 cuts = 28/46 = 60.9% up to 10pts with 5555, 999, 101010, JJJ, QQQ = 16 cuts. Plus 9 diamonds for 1pt extra for his nob = 9/46 = 0.20pt.

A-3-9-J: Improves with AAA, 2222, 333, 4444, 5555, 6666, 999, 101010, JJJ = 31 cuts = 31/46 = 67.4% up to 7/8/11pts with AAA, 2222, 5555, 101010 = 14 cuts. Plus 2pts for 9 diamonds for the flush and his nob = 18/46 = 0.39pt.

3-9-10-J: Improves with 2222, 333, 5555, 6666, 8888, 999, 101010, JJJ, QQQQ = 32 cuts = 32/46 = 69.6% up to 5/7/8pts with 2222, 333, 5555, 6666, 999, 101010, JJJ = 24 cuts. Plus 9 diamonds for 1pt extra for his nob = 9/46 = 0.20pt.

Pegging:

I think the flush will peg best and be hardest to read.

Position:

We only need 4pts to be in position at 4th street positional hole so I'll play Defense.

Summary:

The flush has nearly as many cuts as the best, 3-9-10-J and 14 cuts for 7-11pts so it has a better maximum. It also has 0.39pt extra potential for a diamond cut and it should peg better as well. So I'll throw the 10-Q which has some negative delta too as we hold a J.
HalscribCLX
5315 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:46 PM
At 92-84* playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

________________Dlr's
Defense___Hand___Pegs___Crib___Total____W2 %____W3 %
A-3-9-J___6.67+(-2.57)+(-4.52)=(-0.42)__21.9____74.8
9-10-J-Q__6.63+(-3.17)+(-5.09)=(-1.63)__19.6____70.0
3-9-10-J__5.48+(-2.87)+(-4.35)=(-1.76)__15.1____68.9

Defense_______L2 %____L3 %
A-3-9-J_______5.2_____12.1
9-10-J-Q______5.7_____15.7
3-9-10-J______3.7_____15.7

The flush is 0.57pt best for expected averages and is significantly best for Win 5s and Loss %s. So I'll select 10-Q to discard.

After the 6D cut I'll lead the J and play Offense:

Lead________Our Pegging Pts.
J_________________1.73
9_________________1.62
A_________________0.96
3_________________0.90