December 10, 2018

*** This hand was suggested by Inushtuk1
29-45*  ?
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Total votes: 162
james500

Joined: June 2013 (4355 votes)

Monday 3:16 AM
I'll want to keep all the fives, and I don't want to discard 7-9 either.
7+3=10, and with so many fives out of circulation, this could be safe(ish) I think?
Both could become 20 points after a 5 cut, but 5557 has a greater second highest value (17 after a 6 cut), than does 5559 (14 after an A or X).
5d lead.
Rosemarie44

Joined: March 2016 (2249 votes)

Monday 3:22 AM
Decided to not toss 7-9 to opponent and keep this hand today. Statistics very close.
Guest says: The hand on 12/3/18 is somewhat similar to this hand but was more straightforward in what to hold and discard. The hand was 2c, 5c, 5s, 5d, 6s, 7h.
dec

Joined: April 2008 (6866 votes)

Monday 3:50 AM
I would like to add the possibilities of the four and two cuts but not at the risk of the seven-nine discard. Lead a seven and hope to muddle the pegging. dec
Guest says: I think we had this hand before......
Andy (muesli64)

Joined: August 2009 (2343 votes)

Monday 4:11 AM
Yes, 3-9. optimum throw. 7-9 too dangerous to the crib. Esp. when so far behind.
Gougie00

Joined: March 2008 (6180 votes)

Monday 4:39 AM
I'll chance the 7-9 toss. Lead a 5 and play defense.
zeke76

Joined: August 2018 (1531 votes)

Monday 6:26 AM
keep the 5s and try to balk the crib.
Jazzselke

Joined: March 2009 (2870 votes)

Monday 7:08 AM
Dealer is marginal so we can get back in this game if a couple cuts go our way and opponent slows up.
JRCeagle78

Joined: June 2016 (1054 votes)

Monday 8:36 AM
with 16 X cards and 4 6's available, I'll toss the 9-3. I would like to keep the 3 but 7-9 can be too dangerous with me being 16 holes down already.
dgergens

Joined: January 2018 (940 votes)

Monday 9:12 AM
I think everyone basically said or is thinking the same thing. Have not seen JQT in a while.
Guest says: He in town getting a haircut
glmccuskey

Joined: April 2011 (4488 votes)

Monday 9:53 AM
With fourteen points and dealer at 45 I’ll peg as defensively as I can but I’m forced to lead a five
wasa says: Curious why lead a 5. I'd lead the 7 as there are 15 face cards / ten cards vs seven 7s/8s available for opponent to peg off of me.
joekayak says: Leading a five from the triplets insures we won't be left with them after leading our 7. Too easy for the to get trapped when they are all we have left. Lead one of the fives.
Coeurdelion

Joined: October 2007 (5766 votes)

Monday 11:44 AM
3-5-5-5 or 5-5-5-7?:

3-5-5-5: 8pts - 5¼pts (Schell: 5.26) = +2¾pts

5-5-5-7: 8pts - 4¾pts (Schell: 4.87) = +3¼pts

Potential:

3-5-5-5: Improves with 2222, 333, 4444, 5, 777 + 16xXs = 31 cuts = 31/46 = 67.4% up to 14/17/20pts with 2222, 4444, 5, 777 + 16xXs = 28 cuts.

5-5-5-7: Improves with 333, 5, 6666, 777, 8888 + 16xXs = 31 cuts = 31/46 = 67.4% up to 14/17/20pts with 333, 5, 6666 + 16xXs = 24 cuts.

Pegging:

I think 3-5-5-5 will peg slightly better.

Position:

We're well behind so I'll play Offense to catch up.

Summary:

3-5-5-5 has better potential with 28 cuts for 14+pts whilst 5-5-5-7 has only 24 cuts. However the 3-9 discard is safer than 7-9 and so it starts with ½pt more (Schell: 0.39). It will be close but I'll throw the safer 3-9
joekayak

Joined: May 2016 (1877 votes)

Monday 11:44 AM
Cannot throw 7-9 into dealers crib. Lead a five.
HalscribCLX

Joined: February 2008 (5711 votes)

Monday 3:07 PM
At 29-45* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

________________Our
Offense___Hand__Peg___Crib___Total___W6 %____W7 %
5-5-5-7___11.83+1.15+(-4.44)=8.54____14.8____20.9
3-5-5-5___12.17+1.04+(-4.80)=8.41____15.7____21.6
5-5-5-9___11.17+0.91+(-4.33)=7.75____12.9____19.8

Offense______L6 %____L7 %
5-5-5-7______48.5____65.6
3-5-5-5______49.0____64.5
5-5-5-9______47.3____66.6

5-5-5-7 is slightly best for expected averages by 0.13pt but 3-5-5-5 is slightly best for Win %s and very slightly better than 5-5-5-7 for Loss %s. Both Win %s and Loss %s take account of the board position so I'll select 7-9 to discard.

After the J cut I'll lead the 3 and play Defense:

Lead______________Dealer's Pegging Pts.
3________________________(-3.42)
5________________________(-3.56)
Ras2829

Joined: November 2008 (5496 votes)

Monday 4:48 PM
Sixteen points down, won't chance the 7-9 discard. Most frequent discard made by dealer by far is 7-8. Don't like the 3-9 (by the way 7-9 and 3-9) are nearly identical as to average) either. Lot more chance that 7-9 discard will score 12 or more points to dealer crib. Will lead a five as would prefer to have the choice of playing 7 or five next play rather than have 5-5-5 remaining. If dealer scores 15-2 on my lead will drop another five for count of 20.