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Total votes: 220 |
Mark6 702 votes Joined: June 2020 |
    Tuesday 3:11 AM
Nice Cut for those discarding 6s Mark6 says: Compromise . The sure 8 gets me to 71 and protects against 7-8 discard Mark6 says: The 2-2 discard likely to result in lower than Expected Average for Crib with me holding the 3s |
james500 3924 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Tuesday 3:16 AM
3-6 with a second 3 and 6 out of circulation should be fairly innocuous, (I hope).
3-2-6 eleven and fake diamond flush. Only the cut of an 8 is unhelpful. duke62 says: An 8 does help - 2-2-3-8 james500 says: Hi Duke, thanks for the correction. My inattention strikes again. |
dec 6359 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Tuesday 3:16 AM
I will be one of them today .Only three ranking of cuts probably do me right here A 4 Face cards. Hope the pegging goes fairly even here at least. Three lead. dec |
glmccuskey 4102 votes Joined: April 2011 |
    Tuesday 4:05 AM
I think with dealer at 71 we need to play conservative even if that means we are in the short end of 3rd street CPZ rather then deeper into it after this hand. glmccuskey says: I keep 2-3-3-6 glmccuskey says: I keep 2-3-3-6 |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Tuesday 4:17 AM
I have the same reasoning as mark6 in choosing 2-2 to opponent's crib (safer). Play our position first we need 7 points.
Good puzzle James500. |
usacoder 968 votes Joined: August 2019 |
    Tuesday 4:33 AM
The chances of getting a 10 J Q or K are too high. Start with a 3. |
Gougie00 5731 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Tuesday 5:29 AM
Another pregnant 3s problem. I like the 2233 together just incase an Ace or 4 is cut. 16 faces also help. Anything but a 6.
Lead a 3. Engage with the pegging, no choice. |
mfetchCT425 1400 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Tuesday 6:02 AM
So much potential with this hand for 12 or 16, so I think it’s worth the risk, especially at this position. Will lead the 3d. |
RubyTuesday 915 votes Joined: January 2019 |
    Tuesday 6:18 AM
I’m with those of you who threw 6 6. |
Jazzselke 2587 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Tuesday 6:37 AM
I've wondered about this hand many times and in different positions. But I believe the potential of the 2233 is too hard to overlook. |
JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Tuesday 7:05 AM
We could Toss (6 6), or Toss (2 2), or pick some hybrid solution and either Toss (3 6) or Toss (2 6).
I'll go with Toss (2 2) today, since it should have significant Negative Delta as we hold half of the Treys. After the Queen Cut, I'll lead a Trey. |
wasa 3019 votes Joined: November 2014 |
    Tuesday 7:08 AM
Keeping the sure 8. I understand statistically this will stay at 8 points as only a 3, 6, or 9 helps. |
zeke76 1397 votes Joined: August 2018 |
    Tuesday 7:12 AM
The max hand is too tempting. |
SallyAnn3 908 votes Joined: March 2020 |
    Tuesday 8:15 AM
Held the sure 8, vs the possible 12 with a likely face card. That's always the time I get a worthless cut lol. Negative delta of having 2 of the troublesome 3's is what convinced me. |
jmath714 1299 votes Joined: January 2012 |
    Tuesday 10:37 AM
With the crowd here, to me, the biggest reason to toss 2-2 is having two threes in my hand already. Curious what the discard average becomes in that spot specifically. |
dgergens 938 votes Joined: January 2018 |
    Tuesday 2:53 PM
Gambled on an X cut. Also A or 4 could help. |
Coeurdelion 5595 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Tuesday 6:01 PM
I think it's a direct choice between 3-3-6-6 (2-2) and 2-2-3-3 (6-6):
3-3-6-6: 8pts - 6½pts (Schell: 6.38) = +1½pts 2-2-3-3: 4pts - 6¾pts (Schell: 7.08) = -2¾pts Potential: 3-3-6-6: Improves with 33, 66, 9999 = 8 cuts = 9/46 = 19.6% up to 14/18/20pts with all cuts. 2-2-3-3: Improves with AAAA, 22, 33, 4444, 5555, 7777, 8888, 9999 + 16xXs = 44 cuts = 44/46 = 95.7% up to 8/12/16pts with AAAA, 22, 33, 4444, 7777, 8888 + 16xXs = 36 cuts. Position: Dealer is 1pt past positional hole while we're well behind but if we can get well past 3rd street positional hole this deal we can still be in a reasonable position. Pegging: I think 2-2-3-3 will peg better than 3-3-6-6 playing Offense which I think we must play in this position. Summary: 3-3-6-6 is better for expected averages by 4¼pts and has the higher maximum but 2-2-3-3 has many more cuts for improvement and 36 cuts for 8-16pts. Will this make up the 4¼pts? I think as 2-2-3-3 has 36 cuts for 8-16pts and that it will peg better so I'll throw the 6-6. |
HalscribCLX 5318 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Tuesday 6:20 PM
At 63-71* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
________________Our Offense___Hand__Pegs__Crib___Total___W4 %____W5 % 2-2-3-3____10.26+2.78+(-6.56)=6.48____35.0____30.2 3-3-6-6_____9.48+0.93+(-5.61)=4.80____25.4____29.2 2-2-3-6*____6.17+2.04+(-4.02)=4.19____39.1____36.3 2-3-3-6*____6.26+2.04+(-4.31)=3.99____39.5____36.3 Offense______L4 %____L5 % 2-2-3-3_______59.2____57.3 3-3-6-6_______53.3____59.2 2-2-3-6*______49.1____48.1 2-3-3-6*______49.4____48.1 2-2-3-3 is best for expected averages by 1.68pts over 3-3-6-6 but both 2-2-3-6 and 2-3-3-6 are both better for Win %s and Loss %s. In this critical board position I would choose based on Win/Loss %s but as we are only half way through the game and the difference in expected averages is so large I'll select 6-6 to discard. After the Q cut I'll lead a 2 and play Defense: Lead____________Dealer's Pegging Pts. 2_____________________(-2.39) 3_____________________(-2.43) |