October 14, 2020
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| SallyAnn3 | Played Jazzselke in this game--he won, of course :) |
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usacoder 968 votes Joined: August 2019 |
Wednesday 3:28 AM
Great show-card!
According to my algo - putting any pair of 3s into our crib we should score on an average 19 points. Second best choice would be any A-3 combo. |
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JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
Wednesday 3:46 AM
The only way to retain a Double RUN worth Eight Points in Hand, while stowing a nice PAIR into our Crib, is Toss (3 3).
Toss (A A) would be my second choice, but it would obviously be quite a bit inferior to Toss (3 3), which is a much stronger discard. Toss (A 3) would be third or last, because while it does allow a Double RUN in Hand, it 'stalls' in the Crib with significant Negative Delta (since we were dealt a Deuce) and it also begins with no initial points. |
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Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
Wednesday 4:03 AM
At first glance I thought of tossing the pair of aces. See that it Iis better to keep 8 points in the hand and 2 in the crib to start. Second choice would.be to toss the aces. Rosemarie44 says: A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush! Start with 10 points |
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james500 3923 votes Joined: June 2013 |
Wednesday 4:03 AM
Plenty of helpful cuts, and some of John's, "pin action" in my crib.
A bit fanciful maybe, but against X-X-X-X I'd peg ten holes: X(10)-2(12)-X(22)-3(25)-go-3(28/2)-3(31/8). |
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mrob2199 1435 votes Joined: February 2009 |
Wednesday 4:23 AM
Nice puzzle today Sally!In this position today I’m going to take a little bit of a chance and go for the bingo cut of an ace or 4-any picture ,3,7 or 9 will also give me at least a dozen-there is also a pegging aspect to this hold-if pone is holding 4 pictures we can lay the 2 on the first play and run the threes for 10 total pegging points here Eolus619 says: very nice nice and helpful explanation...thanks Eolus619 says: should be nice idea ..not nice nice ..but thinking about it maybe your choice does deserve two nieces Eolus619 says: what a morning...i gave you nieces ..they are nice to have!...but I really did mean NICE SallyAnn3 says: Thanks, Rob :) I don't post many, but they are usually thinkers versus very good players. Harder when it is one of my awesome mentors! lol |
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dec 6358 votes Joined: April 2008 |
Wednesday 4:26 AM
Surprised a five wasn't cut there. I like keeping the double here. Pegging has that four card eleven could be an offensive pegger here. He must have got dealt good cards next deal for him. Offense. dec dec says: sorry got fixed on choice above me. still like the fifteen or aces for three. dec mfetchCT425 says: Thanks for the pummeling last night Dan and great job to pull a 12 card after losing your first 3. Nicely done. |
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mfetchCT425 1399 votes Joined: February 2009 |
Wednesday 5:34 AM
Like the double run here with the 3s in the crib. I think the pair of 3s generally does better than a pair of As in our crib as the As are on the very low end with less chance to catch any of our opponent’s cards. |
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Eolus619 1342 votes Joined: June 2020 |
Wednesday 6:24 AM
looking @ the pegs, dealt hand and starter ...the three Ras decision points ..ALL day full on offense to me |
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Gougie00 5730 votes Joined: March 2008 |
Wednesday 6:26 AM
Its all about the crib. 3-3 and it really doesnt matter which. The ace gives me 15. I might get beyond hole 60 at the end of this deal. Save AA for the end of pegging. |
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JRCeagle78 1054 votes Joined: June 2016 |
Wednesday 7:50 AM
I was looking for any starter of 9 or above. I figured that my odds were pretty good in that aspect. If the pone had a fistful of higher ranks the pegging would b a definite plus.
I certainly will not be shedding any tears that the starter card is an ace. It is not out of the realm of possibilities to reach hole 65 or 66. |
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Jazzselke 2586 votes Joined: March 2009 |
Wednesday 8:31 AM
2333 has a number of extremely helpful cuts, and the odds of hitting the quadruple run are lowered by being dealt 3 threes. Normally am not crazy about aces to the crib, but this is a unique case. Pegging aspect also already mentioned. But could not argue vociferously against the double-run hold. |
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Mark6 702 votes Joined: June 2020 |
Wednesday 8:48 AM
3s Top 10 discard to my Crib , best Pair except for 5s Jazzselke says: DeLynn has 7s higher, Ras 3s Mark6 says: My Ras Chart has 3s at 10th , 7s at 13th best Choice . Very close |
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Ras2829 5154 votes Joined: November 2008 |
Wednesday 9:52 AM
When looking at the pegs it's off., when looking at the six cards dealt it's off., and once seeing the starter card will shift downward one notch to optimal. That means I would take pegs as offered except would not pair a deuce if led. Combined value (pegs, potential hand and crib scores) dictate holding these cards. The combined value of this hold is slightly less than 18 points. Second choice would be to toss A-A. The 3-3 averages 6.075 (1,100) 10/91 as compared to A-A at 5.507 (1,209) 19/91. Those treys are 50% more likely to score a crib of 8 points or more and 25% less likely to score a mere tow points in dealer crib. Interesting puzzle. Ras2829 says: Just in case yo wondered, would play an Ace on a deuce lead. Would pair an Ace or trey if led. Would play the deuce on a four lead. Leads of 8, 9, or a X-pointer will advance the count to 11. Would respond with AS on a five lead and would offer the trey on a six lead. That's my plan. What's yours? Have one and apply it. |
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Andy (muesli64) 2223 votes Joined: August 2009 |
Wednesday 10:07 AM
Seems obvious? |
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SallyAnn3 908 votes Joined: March 2020 |
Wednesday 11:02 AM
I tossed the 3's.....hoping to parlay the aces.... Jazzselke says: I seem to remember a playoff match that is in contradiction to your opening statement at the top!?! SallyAnn3 says: hahahaha--this is true, especially since it was the finals :) I've learned a lot since then, mostly from this site and good friends willing to guide me :) |
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cwed 1355 votes Joined: October 2014 |
Wednesday 12:25 PM
SA3: yep, I tossed the 3s also. After this favorable cut, I will play some defense against the pone's lead in an attempt to keep her short of the next dealing mark. |
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cwed 1355 votes Joined: October 2014 |
Wednesday 12:35 PM
On a tangential note: a puzzle like the one posted today highlights a programming flaw in this website. There are three ways to hold A-A-2-3. Given that suit is not an issue today, all of these have exactly the same value and therefore should be lumped together in the list at the top of the page, as it has absolutely no bearing on which 3 you hold. (The same thing applies to the six ways a player could hold A-2-3-3; they have all the same value and should be grouped together.) Granted, there are times when it matters which of a pair you hold--but not today. JQT says: I've pondered this issue for almost fifteen years. I am not a programmer, but I have written a bit of code in a number of programming languages, and I studied programming while in college. Deciding when to "bundle" similar-looking discards, as we might do today, as opposed to when we should not do so, is not a trivial piece of code. In fact, if we just try to explain in English when and when not to "bundle," it would probably be as complicated as a legal paper! Sometimes we want to avoid throwing same suits 'over the board,' but not if we have a FLUSH in a different suit! On occasion, many players icluding myself will throw same suits just in order to retain three of another suit for a Fake Flush maneuver during the pegging. This page mostly allows both a vote and an explanation, while the Halscrib Program goes further and attempts to decipher the proper discard, and throwing different suits often will incur a few tenths more or less of a point due to the aforementioned qualities. This site lacks all of the algorithms in a Cribbage Program, and yet even the program might have some difficulty of when to "bundle" similar-looking discards together. It's definitely not a trivial algorithm to write, and yet I agree, it does often seem cumbersome to attempt to mentally "bundle" those similar-looking discards on this site. |
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dgergens 938 votes Joined: January 2018 |
Wednesday 8:57 PM
Hoping for an X cut. 9 cut would work too. Happy with the A cut. |
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