April 4, 2021

*** This hand was suggested by JCM
112-110*  ?
33%
31%
25%
3%
2%
1%
1%
1%
0%
Total votes: 189
JCMFrom an actual game(24 Feb). I want to make 9 pts on first show as pone. What to discard? I grit my teeth and discarded 3-3, and a 5 was cut. I lost 119-121. What's the best way to go?
james500
2826 votes

Joined: June 2013

   
Sunday 4:14 AM
2-3-3-7 for me.
Cuts of A,2,3,4,5,7 or X all increase the hand to a value of 8+.
dec
5221 votes

Joined: April 2008

   
Sunday 4:44 AM
2-3-3 may get us one to five points on the pegging also. Deciding factor for me. dec
JCM
551 votes

Joined: April 2019

   
Sunday 4:47 AM
There's something wrong in my description. Discarding 33 means holding 2788. If a 5 was cut that makes a 10-pt hand where I needed 9. I couldn't have lost.

Maybe the score was actually 109-110*, and I needed 12 points. The pieces would fit together now. Let's pretend that is the situation:

109-110*,
the 6 cards still being 233788.

Apologies for the mix-up.
Gougie00
4608 votes

Joined: March 2008

   
Sunday 5:19 AM
I guessed right. The 233 was staying together just in case a face as cut. Lead the 3 and play off.

Happy Easter.
scottcrib
547 votes

Joined: August 2019

   
Sunday 6:30 AM
Kept it this way because a face card cut means I only have to peg one. In JCM's revised scenario, I would do the same discard, but then needing to peg 3.
Eolus619
318 votes

Joined: June 2020

   
Sunday 7:08 AM
Every cut adds points..only the 6,8 & 9 don’t get the hand to 8 or more ..then see dec’s point about pegging potential
glmccuskey
3375 votes

Joined: April 2011

   
Sunday 7:27 AM
Looks like it’s been covered by those above me. Nice cut.
SallyAnn3
320 votes

Joined: March 2020

   
Sunday 8:41 AM
Ditto. Worth giving up 2 points to cut a face, and low peggers in the race.
RubyTuesday
698 votes

Joined: January 2019

   
Sunday 9:25 AM
I decided against throwing 8 8. I wish I hadn’t, for all the reasons you give above.
Ras2829
4073 votes

Joined: November 2008

   
Sunday 10:47 AM
Score matters into if choosing offense pegging strategy. RAS was thinking offense when looking at the pegs, when looking, at the six cards, and will down shift to defense once knowing that am out with first count. Anywhere on the board if the choice were offense, holding 2-3-3-7 has a wide margin as all 46 cards add value, and the cards with higher pegging value have been retained. If holding 2-7-8-8, A, 3, 4, 10, J, Q, and K add nothing. That's more than half the deck! Will lead a trey and will not triple if dealer pairs. Don't need the 6 pegs. See way too many games lost on fourth street when giving up 12 pegs for a quad. Only way dealer can peg 11 for a win is to gain substantial help from n/d. Sorry, dealer, you're on your own!
jmudge
167 votes

Joined: July 2020

   
Sunday 11:17 AM
Nice puzzle today! Kept the magic elevens, although I don't know how much good it will do this late in the game.
joekayak
1349 votes

Joined: May 2016

   
Sunday 12:44 PM
Most cuts for the win. Best offensive pegging hand if offense needed. Once I see the cut, I am with Ras, once I am out, DEFENSE-NO TRIPLES.
Coeurdelion
4524 votes

Joined: October 2007

   
Sunday 4:20 PM
We need 9pts to get out so I think it's got to be between 2-3-3-7 (8-8), 3-7-8-8 (2-3) and 2-7-8-8 (3-3) discards:

2-3-3-7: Improves to 9pts or more with AAAA, 33, 4444 = 10 cuts. Plus it improves to 8pts with 222, 5555, 777 + 16xXs = 26 cuts.

3-7-8-8: Improves to 9pts or more with 4444, 6666, 777, 88, 9999 = 17 cuts. Plus it improves to 8pts with 333, 5555, = 7 cuts.

2-7-8-8: Improves to 9pts or more with 5555, 6666, 777, 88, 9999 = 17 cuts. Plus it improves to 8pts with 222 = 3 cuts.

So although 2-3-3-7 doesn't have the most cuts for 9pts or more it does have 26 cuts for 8pts and with 3 low cards and a middle card it has a very good chance of pegging the extra 1pt. So I'll throw the 8-8.
HalscribCLX
4269 votes

Joined: February 2008

   
Sunday 4:22 PM
At 112-110* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the Win %s are:

Offense__________Win %
2-3-3-7__________92.0
3-7-8-8__________61.7
2-7-8-8__________59.1

2-3-3-7 is best for Win %s by a large margin so I'll throw the 8-8.

After the 3 cut I'll lead a 3 and play Defense:

Lead__________Dealer's Pegging Pts.
3____________________(-2.26)
2____________________(-2.48)
7____________________(-2.62)
HaydenSr
366 votes

Joined: April 2020

   
Sunday 6:08 PM
For all the reasons above. Happy Easter to you all.