April 6, 2021

*** This hand was suggested by James500
73*-86  ?
56%
27%
13%
2%
Total votes: 246
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:18 AM
Hold the double run to start with 10 points and a possible maximum of 21 points. Expected averages of this choice is about a point higher than holding the flush.(hand and crib).
dec
6359 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:35 AM
Automatic to me. Especially with these positions. dec
MiketheExpert says: You need to go for the maximum expected score (hand + crib + pegging) given the board position and game situation. This keeps the maximum potential hand with the cut (3 for 21 points) and is also the best pegging hand.
james500
3924 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:05 AM
Hopefully this arrangement can make up for the point I've sacrificed to avoid putting Q-6 in my crib.

Nice cut regardless whether you chose 456Q (3-3), 3345 (Q-6) or the 345Q (3-6) flush.
joekayak
1873 votes

Joined: May 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:17 AM
Every cut helps this hand/throw.
glmccuskey
4102 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:11 AM
This hold has to much up side to ignore. Nice cut for 21 points. Defense to the lead.
dgergens
938 votes

Joined: January 2018

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:31 AM
Alone again. Looking forward to the numbers. Was gambling pone would slough off a 3 or 9.
zeke76
1397 votes

Joined: August 2018

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:08 AM
You are not alone dgergens, though I'm not sure my throws make for good company.
dgergens says: It's been my experience (so far) that all cribbage players make good company.
dgergens says: I see mrob joined our club, that's good company. Sans knowing the cut would be a 3, I don't think our choice is way off base or in left field. We'll find out later.
Eolus619
1343 votes

Joined: June 2020

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:40 AM
dec’s & Rosemarie’s keep choices are frequently a good “lighthouse.” I happened to pick their keep starting with 10:points . The cut produces a 21 hand, but the real pivot point in the game is how close to 112 will current n/d be when (s)he is counting first two hands from now . Current dealer is on the wrong side of the cycle.
wasa
3019 votes

Joined: November 2014

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:42 AM
Hard to justify the flush over the 3-3-4-5, although the thought crossed my mind.
jmudge
701 votes

Joined: July 2020

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:58 AM
I normally would have held the 456 run, but the double run was too good to pass upon.
Andy (muesli64)
2223 votes

Joined: August 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:03 AM
Text book throw.
JCM
910 votes

Joined: April 2019

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:34 AM
At 73*-86 we need to make up some ground and this keep makes the most points. Even with Q6 to crib, it will usually contribute another 3-6 pts. 3345 pegs well, too.

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mrob2199
1436 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:38 AM
Like the 2 chances to help the hand or the crib over the “all eggs in one basket “ 3345 hold-tho it is a very pretty basket! The 456Q provides us with a slightly stronger defensive pegging hand,which is very important with pone already at 86-although we are very far out this hold also contains the bingo cuts of a 4 or 5
SallyAnn3 says: Congrats on second on Sunday :)
Ras2829 says: Hi mrob2199; AS you know finishing second in an ACC sanctioned event is wonderful. It's amazing to play through all those playoff rounds to end up playing for the championship. Deadwood will never be the same. Congratulations!
mrob2199 says: Thank you Sally and Ras! It was a very frustrating series of tournaments before Sunday-in 3 of them I missed qualifying by a point and the 4th I got taken to the wood shed!!!!missed you guys during those few days!
SallyAnn3 says: Awww..thanks. I was rooting for several of you, but not seeing your names on the FB postings much :( Was glas to see you got something on the final day!
dec says: Rob like you said earlier you could be a lil on the rusty side but way to represent at the end! Hopefully we had other locals there. dec
SallyAnn3
908 votes

Joined: March 2020

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:50 AM
A dozen that can cut to 20-21. Gotta remember that any toss can turn into 12-14, so off they go.
SallyAnn3 says: oops..meant 10
Ras2829
5155 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 10:05 AM
Looking at the pegs, dealing with the deck at hole 73 with opponent 13 points down the board, it's offense all the way, same when looking at these six cards, with a sudden downshift to defense pegging strategy once knowing that have 21 points. Once seeing the starter card, limiting n/d movement down the board becomes key. Will play off the lead although would pair a trey. Ditch the lone 5 spot on any X-pointer and likely score 3-3 back to back for 31-4. The magic eleven 3-3-5 often does that for dealer. No need for dealer to struggle with discard in hands with such potential. About half the time dealer needs to dump garbage to crib. Don't struggle with discard in such hands. Pegging and hand score potentials far outweigh the loss in crib value. In this case, the difference based on scant empirical data is nearly 1.5 points.
Gougie00
5731 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 1:47 PM
Not prying that 3345 away from me.
Coeurdelion
5595 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:46 PM
I think it's between 3-3-4-5 (6-Q), 4-5-6-Q (3-3) and 3C-4-5-Q (3-6):

3-3-4-5: 10pts + 3¼pts (Schell: 3.23) = 13¼pts

4-5-6-Q: 7pts + 5¾pts (Schell: 5.94) = 12¾pts

3C-4-5-Q: 9pts + 4pts (Schell: 3.81) = 13pts

Potential:

3-3-4-5: Improves with 2222, 33, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 8888, 9999 + 15xXs = 42 cuts = 42/46 = 91.3% up to 14/16/20/21pts with 33, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 8888 = 19 cuts.

4-5-6-Q: Improves with AAAA, 33, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 9999 + 15xXs = 38 cuts = 38/46 = 82.6% up to 11/14/16pts with 444, 555, 666, QQQ = 12 cuts.

3C-4-5-Q: Improves with AAAA, 2222, 33, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 8888 + 15xXs = 42 cuts = 42/46 = 91.3% up to 12/13/14/16pts with 2222, 33, 444, 555, 666, QQQ = 18 cuts. Plus 9 clubs for 1pt extra for the flush = 9/46 = 0.20pt.

Position:

We're 3pts past third street positional hole and Pone is on target to reach fourth street positional hole for their next deal. So I'll play Defense to try to slow Pone down.

Pegging:

3-3-4-5 will peg very well with a 3-card magic eleven but the flush will also peg well and playing Defense I think will peg best. Plus it will be hard to read.

Summary:

3-3-4-5 has the best starting value but only by ¼pt. Both 3-3-4-5 and 3C-4-5-Q have the same number of cuts for improvement and with the extra 0.20pt for a club cut the starting values are very close. 3-3-4-5 has 19 cuts for 14-21pts compared to 18 cuts for 12-16pts so I'll throw the 6-Q.
HalscribCLX
5318 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:52 PM
At 73*-86 playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_________________Pone's
Defense___Hand___Pegs___Crib_Total____W3 %____W4 %
3-3-4-5____13.74+(-2.20)+2.99=14.53____34.0____33.8
3C-4-5-Q___12.04+(-2.17)+3.61=13.48____27.6____32.0
4-5-6-Q_____9.76+(-2.20)+5.70=13.26____29.0____32.5

Defense_______L3 %____L4 %
3-3-4-5________55.5____54.6
3C-4-5-Q_______54.4____57.6
4-5-6-Q________53.2____56.6

3-3-4-5 is best for expected averages by 0.05pt and is appreciably best for Win %s and although it's not lowest for Loss %s I'll select 6-Q to discard.

After the 3 cut I'll play Defense to the lead.
travelingman2019
513 votes

Joined: December 2018

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:12 PM
Yes the 21 cut is great, however Q6 will not produce much of a crib, and we need both hands to be productive to get the position back........we choose the flush, but there is great argument to keep 3345 when you are trailing and need every point you can get for position going into 4th street