December 18, 2024
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Total votes: 288 |
scottcrib | CribbagePro hand. Is this a Wasa special? |
Joined: April 2008 (6866 votes) Wednesday 3:58 AM
I don't see 6-9 or discarding a five to add to a score with a four or a face card cut for more positive points for our scoring position. Ten lead. dec |
Joined: January 2024 (513 votes) Wednesday 4:27 AM
No flush. 3-9 or 6-9 seem best for hand meld; a good cut would help 3-6 or 3-T. Try for the easier double run or face card. After the cut, lead the Ten and peg a few. |
Joined: August 2009 (2343 votes) Wednesday 4:37 AM
The flush 56910 has the highest expectation for points. And that is what we are interested in. |
Joined: March 2008 (6180 votes) Wednesday 5:05 AM
The last train out of town again. Keeping the 556 together. Lead the 10 and induce some pegging |
Joined: April 2011 (4488 votes) Wednesday 5:30 AM
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Joined: February 2020 (1235 votes) Wednesday 5:45 AM
All of the X cards unaccounted for, made me disregard the tempting flush. scottcrib says: The flush scores just as much and often more than your keep when an X card is cut. HfxKen says: I did see that. I was factoring in the four 4s and four 7s that are out there. Thanks for pointing that out though! |
Joined: October 2008 (4525 votes) Wednesday 6:00 AM
We need Thirteen Points as Pone to WIN, so let's assume that we might be able to peg ⛳ One Hole, just as we assumed yesterday and the day before. This is a slug-fest between Toss (3c 5d) and Toss (3c 9c). Just as previously, let's get a Hand Mapping of both Discard Choices:
(108-104*) (3c 5d 5c 6c 9c Tc) Cut = 2d, by scottcrib, Dec 18, 2024. Dump the 3c-5d Idea: Keep (5c 6c 9c Tc) and Toss (3c 5d) Expected Hand Average is 508 DIV 46 = 11.043 (minus) Expected Crib Value (Schell) is 6.780 [don't care] Total is 11.043 [use Hand Average/ignore Crib] 02x14=028 - 4c, Jc (Maximum Hand, 2 cuts = 14 Points) 06x13=078 - 444, JJJ (8 cuts >= 13 Points) 13x12=156 - 55, 666, 7c, 8c, 999, TTT (21 cuts >= 12 Points) 09x11=099 - Ac, 777, 888, Qc, Kc (30 cuts >= 11 Points) 09x10=090 - AAA, QQQ, KKK (39 cuts >= 10 Points) 01x09=009 - 2c (40 cuts >= 9 Points) 06x08=048 - 222, 333 (Minimum Hand, 6 Cuts = 8 Points) 46 ___ 508 * * * Dump the 3c-9c Idea: Keep (5d 5c 6c Tc) and Toss (3c 9c) Expected Hand Average is 434 DIV 46 = 9.435 (minus) Expected Crib Value (Schell) is 4.870 [don't care] Total is 9.435 [use Hand Average/ignore Crib] 04x16=064 - 4444 (Maximum Hand, 4 cuts = 16 Points) 02x14=028 - 55 (6 cuts >= 14 Points) 07x12=084 - 7777, TTT (13 cuts >= 12 Points) 12x10=120 - JJJJ, QQQQ, KKKK (25 cuts >= 10 Points) 06x08=048 - 666, 999 (31 cuts >= 8 Points) 15x06=090 - AAAA, 2222, 333, 8888 (Minimum Hand, 15 Cuts = 6 Points) 46 ___ 434 * * * After Toss (3c 5d), we have Eight Cuts (4444, JJJJ) that will yield Thirteen Points or more, and yet after Toss (3c 9c), in spite of the ability to obtain Sixteen Points after Four Cuts (4444), we have only Six Cuts (4444, 55) that will yield Fourteen Points or more. 🎪 Toss (3 9) sends less help 'over the board' but it's less than a difference of Two Points. I think we should hold the FLUSH as the much stronger hand. 🏆 Let's Toss (3c 5d) today. After the Queen of Spades Cut Card, we have Ten Points in our Hand, and we need to peg Three Holes in order to WIN. Lead the Ten "T" Card, and if we cannot peg Three Holes, try not to give up more than One Hole to the Dealer. 🍹 JQT says: Second Paragraph, problem statement should have: Cut = Qs JQT says: Here's an interesting playout when I needed to peg Five Holes!
(5c 6c 9c Tc) (3c 5d) vs (2 4 4 K) (8 T) Cut = 3h,
Pegging: 9 (9) 2 (11) T! (21) K (31=2), 6 (6) 4 (10) 5 (15-5) 4 (19=1), (121-107*). |
Joined: March 2016 (2249 votes) Wednesday 6:31 AM
The Flush has the highest potential for points with many cuts. We only need 13 points to go out. |
Joined: November 2014 (3397 votes) Wednesday 6:41 AM
Keep the hand that has the best chance to get 12+. JQT summarizes it nicely. |
Joined: January 2021 (1636 votes) Wednesday 6:42 AM
Very interesting score. I decided to take an approach that I feel gives me the option to go for it this hand while still potentially keeping dealer below average and have the chance to peg out next hand.
I think it's very close between the 3-9 and flush (3-5). Either way I believe we're still < 50% to get a dozen, so we're likely to be pegging to get out, and that's not my strong suit. If I absolutely wanted to go out this hand I'm keeping the flush and sending the 3-5 (maybe if dealer were at 107/108?). Today, I'll send over the 3-9 and with the Q cut will lead the 10. |
Joined: June 2020 (1769 votes) Wednesday 6:48 AM
hmmmmm…a learning day for me ..I will add Scott’s fine puzzle to my log book under the heading “don’t really know what to do” incidentally those pages are getting crowded with examples ..my thinking today is …n/der has a 25% chance to earn 13 points ..Dealer has a 50% chance to earn 16 points..why “aide” dealer getting 16 by tossing 3-5 that averages nearly 7 ( sorry JQT….I decided to care about this ..maybe mistakenly !) AND..also apologies to Al Miller ..going to try to make it to next hand being close enough to peg out. If I needed the win to make the playoffs..upon further review ..I very well might chose the flush. |
Joined: May 2024 (449 votes) Wednesday 7:08 AM
Keeping the juicy flush. Lead the T. |
Joined: March 2009 (2870 votes) Wednesday 7:46 AM
Splitting the baby only because the dealer is 17 out. 2 points or more closer I would then keep the flush. |
Joined: June 2013 (4354 votes) Wednesday 8:51 AM
Eight points pre-cut, with reasonable chances at more afterwards. |
Joined: July 2020 (652 votes) Wednesday 9:07 AM
Going for the win, and didn't want to get trapped in pegging. |
Joined: July 2017 (691 votes) Wednesday 9:09 AM
The flush is my choice today. Only the A,2 are of no help. If we cut a 5,6,9,10 then all we need is a simple "go" and we win! I see too many opportunities with this hold that say, "go for it". Either the 6 or the 10 lead which always depends upon who's in that seat across from me. wasa says: I might be missing something, but the A goes with the 5-9 combo for 2 points. I'm seeing the 2 or 3 not helping us. wasa says: Technically, the 2c or 3c helps, so only 6 cards don't help ;-) Sgt Pegger says: Great catch wasa! I meant the 2,3 are really the only 2 cards that do not help. |
Joined: December 2023 (288 votes) Wednesday 9:43 AM
I wanted to go with the 5, 6, 9 , 10 flush but really didn't want to put a 5 in their crib so went this way. |