February 22, 2025

*** This hand was suggested by Ras2829
87*-88  ?
48%
48%
26%
26%
24%
24%
0%
0%
Total votes: 241
MarktheShark

Joined: January 2024 (513 votes)

Saturday 3:12 AM
A-3, 6-9, J-J? All are reasonably close and I would normally pitch A-3, but Pone is in position and I am very short. So, I better play some defense here.
MarktheShark says: HalscribCLX is playing offense from this position, so I must be misreading it. Waiting for Ras's comments to better understand.
JQT

Joined: October 2008 (4525 votes)

Saturday 3:46 AM
Toss (A 3) may appear to be the weakest of the three possible Dealer Discards under consideration, but it actually gives us the best "balance" and it increases our chances for further growth in our Crib, because while Toss (A 3) begins with Zero Points, it gets help from so many other combinations of cards. ☕ 🍩 🍎
dec

Joined: April 2008 (6866 votes)

Saturday 4:19 AM
More of a defensive ploy here. A combination of points from the hand and the crib that could add up. dec
Rosemarie44

Joined: March 2016 (2249 votes)

Saturday 4:32 AM
A-3 definitely is the better toss to our crib. Start with 4 points with a hand that has potential for 8 or 10 points.
Gougie00

Joined: March 2008 (6180 votes)

Saturday 5:04 AM
Nothing that I like on this menu. I'll toss 6-9 and hope for the best.
domandcarol

Joined: August 2023 (162 votes)

Saturday 6:02 AM
Not a bounty of great choices, but going with A3 toss, keeping points in hand with possibilities for more.
glmccuskey

Joined: April 2011 (4488 votes)

Saturday 6:14 AM
Jazzselke

Joined: March 2009 (2870 votes)

Saturday 6:28 AM
Keep the 69 with the Jacks for longshot double run, and A3 more versatile as pointed out by JQT. If the facecard pair was Queens or Kings, goodbye 69.
Assman

Joined: May 2024 (449 votes)

Saturday 6:49 AM
I like the options this hand offers. I checked and Liam says the A-3 is the recommended toss. Nonetheless, I like to toss middle cards into the crib. 😎
SallyAnn3

Joined: March 2020 (1263 votes)

Saturday 6:56 AM
More cut help possible for both this way.
james500

Joined: June 2013 (4354 votes)

Saturday 8:40 AM
A nugget of trivia which Bruce will correct me on if I have wrong.

If you list the 91 discards by the frequency that they are made by the dealer, (which I assume starts 2-3, 7-8, X-5...), and then do the same for the non-dealer, (which I assume starts K-10, K/Q-9, K/Q-6....), A-3 is the first discard common to both lists. If one list were simply the exact inverse of the other, discard number 46 would have the title of, "highest common to both", but I believe that A-3 is in the top 20 of both lists.

So what does this tell us about how we are to consider the strength of A-3? If it's high on the dealer list because it's a good discard, it shouldn't also be a high frequency discard made by the non-dealer, and vice versa, if it's a good defensive discard, why is the dealer making it so often? I can only assume that, as with today's puzzle, it's because A-3 with no 2 or 4 present in the hand, doesn't fit with the other four cards all that well, and so gets discarded as, "chaff", to the, "wheat", of the remaining hand.

TLDR: A-3 for me.
Jazzselke says: QK probably also close for common frequency
Sgt Pegger

Joined: July 2017 (691 votes)

Saturday 8:45 AM
All Poker players know that the hardest thing to do is "hitting to an inside straight". With this in mind, it comes down to what are the best cards to give your crib a chance at stardom?
JQT says: A few things make our Small Cards have a greater potential for GROWTH in our Crib: Our Hand gets help from One Card, the Cut Card, while our Crib gets help from Three Cards, the Cut Card as well as the Two Cards that are discarded by Pone. Therefore, while the odds of connecting an Inside Straight are indeed remote, in our Crib we shall have about THREE TIMES AS MANY CHANCES to achieve such an outcome! I once dubbed this effect as achieving "Pin Action" in our Crib. Also, any two cards that 'add up' to less than Five have a greater chance of combining with other cards to form Fifteen, as opposed to Middle or Face Cards, which can only 'add up' to Fifteen with a few other specific cards. 🎳
HalscribCLX

Joined: February 2008 (5711 votes)

Saturday 11:24 AM
At 87*-88 playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss % are:

_______________Our
Offense___Hand_Pegs_Crib_Total____W2 %___W3 %
6-9-J-J____6.04+2.43+4.38=12.85____3.8____25.3
A-3-6-9____4.00+3.13+5.18=12.31____2.7____19.9
A-3-J-J____4.48+2.57+5.07=12.12____2.9____24.3

Offense_______L2 %___L3 %
6-9-J-J________12.5___57.3
A-3-6-9________14.5___62.0
A-3-J-J________11.6___56.8

6-9-J-J is best for expected averages by 0.54pt. and is considerably best for Win %s and second lowest for Loss %s. So I'll select A-3 to discard.

After the 7 cut I'll play Offense to the lead.
wasa

Joined: November 2014 (3397 votes)

Saturday 1:51 PM
I feel today has 3 good choices
Andy (muesli64)

Joined: August 2009 (2343 votes)

Saturday 2:46 PM
I think we are playing catch up. A-3 and a lucky cut!!
Ras2829

Joined: November 2008 (5496 votes)

Saturday 3:47 PM
For some time, advised crib students to split such arrangements. Particularly so if that allowed putting two mid-cards to crib which totaled 2 points. After watching the figures roll by on Halscrib and REX crib for for a few years, it became apparent that combined value will be greater if keeping 6-9 J-J in dealer hand. So, it is with 7-8 10-10, etc. Pairs with a gap whether weaker combinations such as 10-10 Q-Q or those with greater value such as A-A 3-3. Try a new approach if locked into such archaic thinking. Your winning percentage will get a bit of a nudge upward. That's always a good thing!
Ras2829 says: It's offense for sure with deal at hole 87. Score 15-2 on leads of 5, 6, or 9. Pair a Jack if led.